Re: [rtcweb] JSEP-02: Clone comments

Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Thu, 04 October 2012 11:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] JSEP-02: Clone comments
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On 10/04/2012 01:25 PM, Christer Holmberg wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> A couple of comments on the cloning stuff in JSEP:
>
> Q1. The document doesn't say how the cloning is performed. If that is 
> outside the scope of JSEP, and belongs to the W3C API spec, I think it 
> should be mentioned.
>
> Q2. The text in section 4.7.2 says:
>
>                 "As a result of this cloning, the application will end 
> up with N
>
>                 parallel sessions, each with a local and remote 
> description and their
>
>                 own local and remote addresses."
>
> I think the "own local addresses" wording is a little misleading, as 
> each clone will share the same local address.
>

Not sure what to say here.

I can see multiple ways to implement this - some will end up with 
different local ports, some won't.

If the non-local (reflexive?) candidates are allocated using STUN on a 
per-port basis, addresses could be different too.