Re: [rtcweb] No Interim on SDES at this juncture

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Thu, 20 June 2013 07:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] No Interim on SDES at this juncture
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On 2013-06-19 20:27, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
> 
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:56 AM, Magnus Westerlund
> <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>; wrote:
> 
>>>> If you want to discuss this, write a draft describing how how
>>>> your additional keying is to be integrated, what the pro and
>>>> cons of it. That will enable direct discussion of a proposal.
>>>> The WG clearly are opinionated on this matter, but apparently
>>>> don't have energy to produce proposals.
>>> 
>>> There *are* drafts. 
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wing-rtcweb-sdes-problems-00 
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ohlsson-rtcweb-sdes-support-01
>>> There are even powerpoint slides, sent to the chairs the last
>>> time this meeting almost happened but didn't.
>> 
>> One of those drafts has been expired since February I would like
>> to point out.
> 
> You're just messing with me right?  You're pointing out the drafts
> are old, in response to a complaint the meeting's been delayed
> multiple times??  Might it be the drafts are old because the
> meeting's been delayed multiple times?!?

That is not my complaint. Yes, the meeting has been delayed. That has
caused the draft to expire. Thus, I personally would expect that
proponents that are interested in the topic at least re-submits the
draft so that it is available and easily findable for people.

Thus, I took that as part of the indications of uncertain interest. That
weighted in with several other factors that made us cancel the interim.

I can only state my personal view of factors that influenced my position
resulting in the chairs decision.

To be clear, I am also not happy with how this has developed. I
definitely hope this issue can be settled with the Berlin meeting.

Cheers

Magnus Westerlund

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