Re: [rtcweb] One consuming project's concerns with OpenH264 as a MTI codec

David Singer <singer@apple.com> Thu, 07 November 2013 06:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] One consuming project's concerns with OpenH264 as a MTI codec
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Note that you would not have to include it in your distribution; you could suggest it in your installer, for example, and if the suggestion is taken, facilitate the install.


On Nov 7, 2013, at 6:11 , Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I serve on the Engineering Steering Committee for the Fedora Project, a Linux
> Distribution.  A few days ago we were asked if we could give input on
> OpenH264 becoming a MTI codec in the rtcweb standard.  We discussed the
> issue at our weekly meeting and agreed on this statement:
> 
> 
> Fedora is a distribution that cares about software freedom and our users
> freedom. Firstly, we cannot ship binary-only prebuilt software within Fedora.
> This rules out inclusion of OpenH264 binaries direct from Cisco, or other
> providers. Secondly, we cannot ship software built from source which is not free
> for any use, freely distributable, and free from patent restrictions.
> Therefore, Fedora is similarly unable to ship rebuilt OpenH264 code.
> 
> Fedora would be much happier with a non-patent encumbered codec in the standard
> as it would relieve us of the burden of caring for a codec implementation that
> we cannot fix if it is buggy on our platform, let us ship improved or more
> efficient versions of the codec if that is asked for, and relieve us of the
> burden of making sure all implementors of the standard were using a proper
> technique to retrieve the patent-encumbered portion from the internet so that
> we weren't shipping non-free code.
> 
> Acceptance of an insufficiently-free license of the OpenH264 codec would mean
> that open-source vendors are not able to implement it on their own terms. They
> must rely on the implementation provided by a third party (Cisco) and create
> workarounds to have the user download that implementation after installation,
> increasing the burden on open-source users. This creates an unequal environment
> for open-source vendors.
> 
> 
> I hope that helps in your decision making.
> 
> Thank you for your time,
> Toshio Kuratomi
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David Singer
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