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Re: [rtcweb] revisiting MTI

tim panton <tim@phonefromhere.com> Tue, 16 December 2014 21:52 UTC

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> On 16 Dec 2014, at 20:42, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote:
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> There is no such thing as IPR free codec, unless you are talking about H.261 or MJPEG where IPR has expired. What we are looking for is a video codec with an acceptable quality (both VP8 and H.264 qualify) and reasonable licensing (both VP8 and H.264 have serious issues here).

When does the H264/VP8 IPR expire? It is clear this discussion will be kept going around in circles ‘till then.

T.

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