Re: [mpls] New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-bootstrap-clarify-00.txt

Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Fri, 20 October 2017 15:18 UTC

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From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:18:46 -0700
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Subject: Re: [mpls] New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-bootstrap-clarify-00.txt
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Hi Carlos,
thank you for taking interest in the proposal, much appreciated. Please
find my notes in-line and tagged GIM>>.

Regards,
Greg

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 5:54 AM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) <
cpignata@cisco.com> wrote:

> Greg,
>
> This document seems to say “use “Do not Reply” reply mode, and even if you
> reply do not use the BFD Disc TLV, because it is not used.
>
GIM>> To be precise it says "SHOULD use "Do not Reply" thus preserving
compliance of implementations that do otherwise.

>
> Wouldn’t it be simpler to say “follow RFC 8029, and the ingress does not
> care about the BFD Disc TLV in the reply”? This would not suddenly make
> uncompliant existing implementations, potentially.
>
GIM>> I agree that normative language on handling echo reply is bit
restrictive. My goal is to have good discussion and see what others think.

>
> Also I wonder if this should be bfd-mpls instead of mpls-bfd, given where
> RFC 5884 was advanced.
>
GIM>> Probably it should be the way you've suggested. Hope it is not a big
problem for individual draft.

>
> Thanks,
>
> —
> Carlos Pignataro, carlos@cisco.com
>
> *“Sometimes I use big words that I do not fully understand, to make myself
> sound more photosynthesis."*
>
> On Oct 18, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> this new document proposes clarification of two questions brought up in
> course of recent discussion of RFC 5884:
>
>    - use of Return mode values in bootstrapping BFD session echo request;
>    - inclusion of BFD Discriminator TLV in echo response to the
>    bootstrapping echo request.
>
> Your comments, questions are always welcome and greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Greg
>
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> Date: Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 5:46 AM
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-
> bootstrap-clarify-00.txt
> To: Gregory Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>, Yanhua Zhao <
> zhao.yanhua3@zte.com.cn>
>
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-bootstrap-clarify-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name:           draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-bootstrap-clarify
> Revision:       00
> Title:          Clarifying Use of LSP Ping to Bootstrap BFD over MPLS LSP
> Document date:  2017-10-18
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          4
> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-
> drafts/draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-bootstrap-clarify-00.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/
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> Abstract:
>    This document, if approved, updates RFC 5884 by clarifying procedures
>    for using MPLS LSP ping to bootstrap Bidirectional Forwarding
>    Detection (BFD) over MPLS Label Switch Path.
>
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