RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-packets
"Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com> Mon, 29 October 2018 16:55 UTC
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From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>
To: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>
CC: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com>, "Naiming Shen (naiming)" <naiming@cisco.com>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-packets
Thread-Topic: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-packets
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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 16:55:05 +0000
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Jeff - I note that no one supports "large-packets" today. So is the gap between supporting echo mode for this purpose any larger than the gap for introducing large packet support? Les > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 9:42 AM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com> > Cc: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) <rrahman@cisco.com>; Naiming Shen > (naiming) <naiming@cisco.com>; rtg-bfd@ietf.org > Subject: Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-packets > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:39:04PM +0000, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: > > Given the MTU issue is associated with a link coming up - and the use of > Echo would allow the problem to be detected and prevent the BFD session > from coming up - > > and you are acknowledging that the protocol allows padded Echo packets > today ... > > > > is there really a need to do anything more? > > ... the fact that the majority of BFD implementations on the planet do not > support Echo mode? > > Not to mention my whole comment that BFD Echo is intentionally > under-specified. The result being that any attempt to specify anything in > it will likely cause interop headaches. > > -- Jeff
- BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-packets Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Greg Mirsky
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Naiming Shen (naiming)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Enke Chen
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… bruno.decraene
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… xiao.min2
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Naiming Shen (naiming)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Naiming Shen (naiming)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Naiming Shen (naiming)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Albert Fu (BLOOMBERG/ 120 PARK)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Albert Fu (BLOOMBERG/ 120 PARK)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Albert Fu (BLOOMBERG/ 120 PARK)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Greg Mirsky
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Albert Fu (BLOOMBERG/ 120 PARK)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Albert Fu (BLOOMBERG/ 120 PARK)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Naiming Shen (naiming)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Albert Fu (BLOOMBERG/ 120 PARK)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Albert Fu (BLOOMBERG/ 120 PARK)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Acee Lindem (acee)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Albert Fu (BLOOMBERG/ 120 PARK)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Albert Fu (BLOOMBERG/ 120 PARK)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Jeffrey Haas
- RE: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Jeffrey Haas
- BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-packets Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: BFD WG adoption for draft-haas-bfd-large-pack… Jeffrey Haas