Re: [Lsr] Split was Re: Draft minutes for BFD @ IETF110

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
To: Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>
CC: Reshad Rehman <reshad@yahoo.com>, "lsr@ietf.org" <lsr@ietf.org>, Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.ietf@gmail.com>, tom petch <ietfa@btconnect.com>, "rtg-bfd@ietf. org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsr] Split was Re: Draft minutes for BFD @ IETF110
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Thanks, Mahesh.

> On Jul 27, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The surgery that I performed on the draft, and can be seen in the attached files both as a diff and the full file was to remove the mpls-te module dependency from this draft. We should therefore at least not be dependent on the ietf-te module.

I tracked down the earlier thread with the RFC Editor and followed up there. 

Regards,

—John