Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-18: (with DISCUSS)
Mirja Kühlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Tue, 03 July 2018 18:31 UTC
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Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-18: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This mechanism has the potentially to easily overload the network as there is no handshake and therefore also no feedback mechanism (as already noted by the TSV-ART review of Bob - Thanks!). Regarding the base spec in RFC5880, this mechanism can only be used under certain constrains which should be clearly stated in this doc, which are: 1) See sec 6.8.1 of RFC5880: "bfd.DesiredMinTxInterval [...] The actual interval is negotiated between the two systems. This MUST be initialized to a value of at least one second (1,000,000 microseconds) according to the rules described in section 6.8.3." As there no negotiation in this spec, bfd.DesiredMinTxInterval MUST always be at least one second. Actually RFC8085 even recommend 3 sec (see sec 3.1.3). 2) See sec 7 of RFC 8085 "When BFD is used across multiple hops, a congestion control mechanism MUST be implemented, and when congestion is detected, the BFD implementation MUST reduce the amount of traffic it generates. " As there is no feedback and therefore no congestion control, this spec can only be used for one-hop scenarios and the TTL or Hop Count MUST be set to one. 3) Also given the traffic load multipoint BFD generates depends on the number of active session, and there is no feedback mechanism, I recommend to also limit the number of active session of MultipointHead type to a small number (per link).
- Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-m… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-m… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-multi… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-m… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-m… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-m… Greg Mirsky
- Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-m… Greg Mirsky
- Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-m… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-m… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-m… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-m… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bfd-m… Mirja Kühlewind (IETF)