Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-yang-06.txt

"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com> Thu, 27 July 2017 19:19 UTC

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From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com>
To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>, Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.qu@huawei.com>, Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-yang-06.txt
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Hi Acee,

When we met we agreed to have a new model for clients. Afterwards I
decided to create a new types module, and still went ahead with the
clients module. I am fine with having everything in the types module (no
client module).

I am not sure I fully understand your comment/question on
bfd-client-ext-cfg-parms/bfd-grouping-common-cfg-parms. The reason we have
2 groupings is that some protocols may decide to have just the enable leaf
and others may also want the multiplier/timer.

Regards,
Reshad.



On 2017-07-27, 3:07 PM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

>Hi Reshad, 
>Why do we need a new YANG model for clients? Why can’t they just use
>ietf-bfd-types.yang? I’d like to avoid the unnecessary levels of
>indirection. In fact, it looks wrong to me since the grouping
>bfd-client-ext-cfg-parms uses the grouping bfd-grouping-base-cfg-parms
>which only contains the enabled leaf. I believe you meant to use
>bfd-grouping-common-cfg-parms in the other new model. However, I don’t see
>any reason why client shouldn’t use this directly.
>Thanks,
>Acee 
>
>On 7/25/17, 2:33 PM, "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi Yingzhen,
>>
>>The grouping is available @
>>https://github.com/jhaas-pfrc/ietf-bfd-yang/blob/master/src/yang/ietf-bfd
>>-
>>c
>>lients.yang
>>
>>If you¹d like changes to the grouping, send me an email.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Reshad.
>>
>>On 2017-07-21, 12:22 PM, "Yingzhen Qu" <yingzhen.qu@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Reshad,
>>>
>>>Thanks for the summary.
>>>
>>>Both ospf and isis models will make corresponding changes when the new
>>>BFD grouping is available.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Yingzhen
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) [mailto:rrahman@cisco.com]
>>>Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 7:19 AM
>>>To: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>; rtg-bfd@ietf.org
>>>Cc: draft-ietf-bfd-yang@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ospf-yang@ietf.org
>>>Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-yang-06.txt
>>>
>>>We (BFD and OSPF YANG authors) had a discussion yesterday.
>>>
>>>The agreement is that since IGP peers are auto-discovered, we want to
>>>add
>>>back the basic BFD config (multiplier + intervals) in IGP via a
>>>grouping.
>>>BFD will provide that grouping in a specific YANG module. IGP BFD YANG
>>>will be in a separate module (separate from the main IGP module).
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Reshad.
>>>
>>>On 2017-07-05, 12:21 PM, "Rtg-bfd on behalf of Jeffrey Haas"
>>><rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks authors for the edits on the BFD yang module.  This gets us a
>>>>significant step closer to alignment with the rest of IETF for network
>>>>instancing.
>>>>
>>>>I'd like to encourage the working group to provide feedback on this
>>>>issue and also the changes in the module.
>>>>
>>>>As noted in another thread, we still have to figure out how to deal
>>>>with accommodating interaction of the BFD yang module with client
>>>>protocols.
>>>>For
>>>>example, the IGPs.  In particular, how do you configure the properties
>>>>of the BFD sessions that may be dynamically instantiated based on
>>>>control protocol activity?
>>>>
>>>>-- Jeff
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:55:59PM -0700, internet-drafts@ietf.org
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>>>>directories.
>>>>> This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection
>>>>>of the IETF.
>>>>> 
>>>>>         Title           : YANG Data Model for Bidirectional
>>>>>Forwarding
>>>>>Detection (BFD)
>>>>>         Authors         : Reshad Rahman
>>>>>                           Lianshu Zheng
>>>>>                           Mahesh Jethanandani
>>>>>                           Santosh Pallagatti
>>>>>                           Greg Mirsky
>>>>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-bfd-yang-06.txt
>>>>> 	Pages           : 59
>>>>> 	Date            : 2017-06-30
>>>>> 
>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>>    This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to
>>>>>configure
>>>>>    and manage Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-yang/
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-yang-06
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bfd-yang-06
>>>>> 
>>>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfd-yang-06
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>>>>>submission  until the htmlized version and diff are available at
>>>>>tools.ietf.org.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>>>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>>>
>>
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