Re: WGLC for BFD Multipoint documents (last round)
Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Wed, 17 January 2018 04:01 UTC
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From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 20:00:54 -0800
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Subject: Re: WGLC for BFD Multipoint documents (last round)
To: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com>
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Hi Reshad, sorry for my sloppiness. Fixed. Regards, Greg On Jan 16, 2018 7:05 PM, "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com> wrote: > Hi Greg, > > > > In 4.4.1 of MP, “A number values of the state variable are added to the…”, > looks like there is a missing “of”? > > > > For the active-tail draft I haven’t completed my review of -06 yet: there > are parts which aren’t clear to me and I don’t know yet if this is because > there’s something missing in the document or whether it’s just lack of > understanding on my part. > > > > Regards, > > Reshad. > > > > *From: *Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 9:25 PM > *To: *"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com> > *Cc: *"Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com>, Jeffrey Haas < > jhaas@pfrc.org>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: WGLC for BFD Multipoint documents (last round) > > > > Hi Reshad, et. al, > > the attached are diff to highlight updates to BFD in Multipoint Network > and the working copy of Active Tails. After checking through the Active > Tails draft, I've found no additional changes to make resulting from > removing all references to bfd.SilentTail from BFD in Multipoint Networks > draft. Your review and comments are most welcome. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Reshad, > > thank you. I'll add it into the working version to others updates. I > believe changes to active tails be more extensive as now it must introduce > the bfd.SilentTail variable, not just its new state. Will work on that now. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) < > rrahman@cisco.com> wrote: > > Hi Greg, > > > > I am fine with the change below. > > > > Regards, > > Reshad. > > > > *From: *Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 2:20 PM > *To: *"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com> > *Cc: *"Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com>, Jeffrey Haas < > jhaas@pfrc.org>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org> > > > *Subject: *Re: WGLC for BFD Multipoint documents (last round) > > > > Hi Reshad, > > I think this is very good idea. Then in section 4.13.3 Transmitting BFD > Packets of BFD for Multipoint Networks should be edited. Perhaps the > following be acceptable: > > OLD TEXT > > A system MUST NOT transmit any BFD Control packets if bfd.SilentTail > > is 1. > > NEW TEXT > > A system MUST NOT transmit any BFD Control packets if bfd.SessionType is > > MultipointTail. > > Will look into related changes in active tails if others agree with the proposal in general. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) < > rrahman@cisco.com> wrote: > > Regarding bfd.SilentTail, I am wondering if instead it should be removed > from MP draft (always 1 in there) and kept as new state variable in > active-tail? > > > > Regards, > > Reshad. > > > > *From: *"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 9:32 AM > *To: *"Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com>, Greg Mirsky < > gregimirsky@gmail.com> > *Cc: *Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org> > > > *Subject: *Re: WGLC for BFD Multipoint documents (last round) > > > > Hi Greg, > > > > The changes for bfd.SessionType (in both drafts) look good. > > > > bfd.SilentTail is fine in multipoint but in active-tail it is in the New > State Variables section. It should be in 3.3.2 instead and there should be > a reference to the multipoint draft. > > > > Also, I am in the process of doing the shepherd write-up. So you don’t > have to push these changes immediately, you can wait for the review, up to > you. > > > > Regards, > > Reshad. > > > > *From: *"Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 1:47 AM > *To: *Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> > *Cc: *"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com>, Jeffrey Haas < > jhaas@pfrc.org>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: WGLC for BFD Multipoint documents (last round) > > > > Looks good to me, Greg. Thanks. > > Thumb typed by Carlos Pignataro. > > Excuze typofraphicak errows > > > On Jan 16, 2018, at 15:32, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Reshad and Carlos, > > thank you for your suggestions. Please check the diffs with proposed > changes to BFD Multipoint and BFD Multipoint with active tails drafts > (attached). > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) < > cpignata@cisco.com> wrote: > > Reshad, Greg, > > > > Indeed, it seems the content of the section is updated, but the title is > misleading. The same applies to the active-tail doc: > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint- > active-tail-06#section-3.3.1 > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-12#section-4.4.1 > > > > Thanks, > > > > — > Carlos Pignataro, carlos@cisco.com > > *“Sometimes I use big words that I do not fully understand, to make myself > sound more photosynthesis."* > > > > On Jan 16, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) <rrahman@cisco.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Greg, > > > > Section 4.4.1 still says “New state variables” for bfd.SessionType and the > text still starts with “A number of state variables and their values are > added…”, so I misinterpreted that as bfd.SessionType is being added as new > state variable. > > > > Please consider splitting this section in 2 parts for clarification e.g. > 4.4.1 for New State Variables (bfd.SilentTail) and 4.4.2 for New State > Variable Values (bfd.SessionType). > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-12#section-4.4.1 > > > > Regards, > > Reshad. > > > > *From: *Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> > *Date: *Monday, January 15, 2018 at 6:17 PM > *To: *"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com> > *Cc: *Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>, "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" < > cpignata@cisco.com>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: WGLC for BFD Multipoint documents (last round) > > > > Hi Reshad, > > I thought I've addressed them as per Carlos suggestion. Have I missed > anything? > > > > Regards, Greg > > > > On Jan 15, 2018 3:00 PM, "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com> > wrote: > > The changes for bfd.SessionType (it’s not a new state variable but uses > what’s defined in RFC7880) weren’t made in the latest revision. > > Greg, do you plan on addressing this soon? Or there’s no consensus on this > topic yet? > > Regards, > Reshad. > > On 2017-12-20, 12:09 PM, "Rtg-bfd on behalf of Jeffrey Haas" < > rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote: > > Greg, > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 02:17:02PM -0800, Greg Mirsky wrote: > > Hi Carlos and Jeff, > > thank you for responding so expediently. I think we've reached the > rough > > consensus. Attached are the diffs for both BFD documents and the > updated > > copies. Please let me know if the changes being made have addressed > all the > > comments received during the WGLC. I'll then upload new versions. > > I believe this covers all points I've seen on the mailing list to date. > > Please push the updates. > > We'll have further discussion about the need for a registry in > conjunction > with the Yang module implications discussion. > > -- Jeff > > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> > wrote: > [...] > > > At this point it is also worth noting that the session type has no > > > centralized location covering their enumerations. This leads to > two > > > interesting observations: > > > - We could have an IANA registry for such things. However, I'm > not sure > > > this is really need. But this also means: > > > - Here's another case why some pieces of the BFD yang module > likely shoudl > > > be IANA maintained. In this case, the bfd-path-type identity as > the > > > relevant example. > > > > > > <Diff_ draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-active-tail-06.txt - > draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-active-tail-07.txt.html> > > <Diff_ draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-12.txt - draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-13. > txt.html> > > > > > > >
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