Re: BFD Echo mode coverage in BFD for VXLAN

Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Fri, 09 August 2019 00:03 UTC

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From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 17:03:45 -0700
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Subject: Re: BFD Echo mode coverage in BFD for VXLAN
To: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com>
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Dear All,
I was pointed out that my previous e-mail asking for WG help to progress
BFD over VXLAN document by sharing opinions regarding coverage of the BFD
Echo mode may be overstepping the bounds of an Editor. I apologize, that
was not my intention. I'm asking WG Chairs to help to arrive at the
conclusion of this question in a reasonable time.

Regards,
Greg

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06 PM Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
> I have not set the when this poll closes. I hope that two weeks would be
> sufficient time for the WG community to express their thoughts.
>
> Dear Carlos,
> thank you for sharing your opinion on the scope of the document in regard
> to BFD Echo mode. You've expressed support for exploring the applicability
> of the BFD Echo mode. Would you support that effort by contributing some
> text, if WG decides that documenting the applicability of the Echo mode in
> BFD over VXLAN is useful?
>
> Regards,
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:18 PM Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) <
> cpignata@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Greg,
>>
>> The option of replacing the existing text for something more ambiguous
>> and implicit does not seem like progress in my humble opinion. The spec
>> ends up with the same capabilities, but the text is more obscure. I do not
>> support that option.
>>
>> My recommendation for your consideration would be:
>>
>>    1. Explore if it is possible to run BFD Echo as a single-hop.
>>    2. If yes, add text supporting it.
>>    3. If no, add text explaining why not on technical grounds.
>>
>>
>> A less desirable option would be if the WG does not care about BFD Echo,
>> to explicitly keep it out of scope (not on technical grounds).
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Carlos.
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>> in course of reviews of the draft, several times a question was asked
>> about the rationale for excluding BFD Echo from the scope of this document:
>>
>> 7.  Echo BFD
>>
>>    Support for echo BFD is outside the scope of this document.
>>
>> Much appreciate your consideration of the following options:
>>
>>    - describe the applicability of BFD Echo in VXLAN environment in the
>>    document;
>>    - remove Section 7 and clarify in the Introduction
>>
>> NEW TEXT:
>>
>> This specification describes procedures only for BFD Asynchronous mode.
>>
>>
>>    - make no changes at all.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>