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Re: [RTG-DIR] [Mtgvenue] Rtgdir telechat review of draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-12

"Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com> Mon, 05 February 2018 20:39 UTC

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From: "Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
CC: Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com>, Stewart Bryant <stewart@g3ysx.org.uk>, "mtgvenue@ietf.org" <mtgvenue@ietf.org>, "rtg-dir@ietf.org" <rtg-dir@ietf.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process.all@ietf.org>
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On 2018-2-5, at 20:06, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it's impossible. At the very least, it's a rat hole. So I
> highly recommend leaving this issue aside.

+1

Plus, we're pretty much left with the empty set when it comes to locations that match our already long list of requirements. So adding more requirements is largely a no-op.

Lars

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