Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-mboned-deprecate-interdomain-asm
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From: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>
To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
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Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-mboned-deprecate-interdomain-asm
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Hi Loa, > On 22 Dec 2019, at 15:37, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote: > > Tim, > > Some snall comments, personal opinions and clarifications inline. > > On 22/12/2019 17:54, Tim Chown wrote: >> Hi, >> Many thanks for the review, comments in-line... >>> On 22 Dec 2019, at 09:44, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote: >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>> Minor Issues: >>> >>> There is a document from the RFC Editor, RFC 7322 "RFC Style guide". >>> These guidelines should be followed, e.g. the "Requirement Language >>> should be moved into the body of the document, normally section 1.1. >> Will do. It seems RFC 7322 recommends a separate section 2 for this after the Introduction. > > I think there is a mismatch between RFC 7332 and what the RFC Editor do. > If you look at RFC 8696, the latest published Standard Track RFC when I > write this. Intyroduction is section 1 and the 2119 language is > section 1.1. OK, thanks, it seems the RFC ~Editor its fine with that, so we can do that. >>> Someone (AD) should think about if the requirement language is needed in >>> this Informational document. A "MUST" is used when outlining what >>> draft-ietf-6man-rfc6434-bis does. but it is not really a requirement >>> from this document. I'm split about this and could go either way. >> Perhaps put MUST in “”s in 4.2? > > hmmmm - could be something we would want to do, but as I said I would take AD advice on this, especially if we intend to remove the 2119 > language. Will do. We need to decide whether to go the 2119 path or not and then be consistent. >>> Also the new template should be used for 2119 language. >>> >>> MLDv2 (or MLD) is not a well-know abbreviation and needs to be expanded. >> Will do. I think the RFC Editor would pick this up, but we can minimise their work :) >>> IGMPv3 is well-known, but IGMPv3 is not. Beats me what is required, >>> but in such cases I always recommend expanding. > > Copy and paste error on my side, what I intended to say was > > IGMP is well-known, but IGMPv3 is not. Beats me what is required, > but in such cases I always recommend expanding. > Maybe you should do "IGMP version 3 (IGMPv3). > But I'd go with whatever you think we should do. I’ll add more expansions on first use; some others were posted out in another review. >> Not sure what you mean here. >>> " >>> Nits: >>> >>> I wonder about this in section 3.1" >>> >>> "... has become widespread in common OSes for several years (Windows, >>> MacOS, Linux/Android)..." >>> >>> Should we say: >>> >>> "... has become widespread in common Operating Systems for several years >>> (Windows, MacOS, Linux/Android)..." >> Can do. >>> Other style issue: >>> >>> Sometimes IGMPv3 / MLDv2 is used >>> >>> At other places IGMP/MLD or IGMPv3/MLDv2, I think we should use one >>> or the other. >> In some places, like 4.2, it is generic IGMP/MLD, but there are others where we should make it more specific, like 3.2.3. > > Yes, that is right, but what I meant was that sometimes you put a space > on either side of the "/", sometimes not. Ah, I thought you meant writing MLD or writing MLDv2, not the / and space :). But I’ll fix up both in the revved version. Best wishes, Tim > > /Loa >> Tim >>> Nits tool has two issues, these are addressed in the Shepherd Write-up, >>> poimting out that updates >>> >>> >>> /Loa >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu >>> Senior MPLS Expert >>> Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >>> > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >
- [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-mboned-deprec… Loa Andersson
- Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-mboned-de… Tim Chown
- Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-mboned-de… Loa Andersson
- Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-mboned-de… Tim Chown