Re: [RTG-DIR] [Mtgvenue] Rtgdir telechat review of draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-12

Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com> Tue, 06 February 2018 03:31 UTC

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On 5 Feb 2018, at 8:43, Stewart Bryant wrote:

> Actually it is more than the facility itself, it is the venue and 
> transport to the venue, and there are a range of disabilities beyond 
> mobility that we need to take into account.
>
> If you want a high-level requirement it is presumably something like 
> "that there is no reasonable impediment to a participant with mobility 
> or sensory disability travelling to and from the venue, obtaining 
> suitable accommodation at the venue, or being able to fully 
> participate in all aspects of the meeting"

That a pretty substantial change to a piece of text that took a great 
deal of back and forth on which to come to rough consensus. Perhaps 
Eliot could suggest some text to satisfy your concern that the 
requirement is for more than just the facility, without having to 
re-hash the whole issue.

>>> SB> Given the support and encouragement of remote participants, 
>>> there ought to
>>> be a note about sharing unreasonable time zone difference pain 
>>> across the
>>> spectrum of remote participants.
>>
>> I don't believe we currently do take that into account in location 
>> selection (perhaps others can chime in), so this would be a new 
>> requirement. We could bring this back to the WG to try and get 
>> consensus around it, but that doesn't excite me. :-) I'll leave it to 
>> my fearless AD to advise.
>
> I suppose location is a proxy for this, but if we are trying to be 
> inclusive we ought to be inclusive to both groups of participant.

See comments from Brian, Lars, and Alissa.

>>> 8.  Privacy Considerations
>>>
>>>    This note reveals no personally identifying information apart 
>>> from
>>>    its authorship.
>>>
>>> SB> This is true, but does spawn the question of whether privacy 
>>> should
>>> be a meeting location selection criteria?
>>
>> "I refer my Right Honourable Friend to the answer I gave some moments 
>> ago." ;-) This sounds like a can of worms. I'll again wait for AD 
>> direction.
>
> Hm, I doubt that I will ever advice the Queen :)

Well certainly you ought to. ;-)

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