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Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing Directorate Last Call Review for draft-ietf-sidrops-rpkimaxlen-11 - "The Use of maxLength in the RPKI"

Job Snijders <job@fastly.com> Wed, 13 July 2022 23:15 UTC

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Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 01:15:05 +0200
From: Job Snijders <job@fastly.com>
To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing Directorate Last Call Review for draft-ietf-sidrops-rpkimaxlen-11 - "The Use of maxLength in the RPKI"
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Dear Acee, others,

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 09:18:56PM +0000, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
> I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft.

Thank you for your help to improve this document!

> Minor Issues: None on this draft - one to consider in IDR.
> 
>   The terms for BLACKHOLE Community and RTHB don't conform to
>   the current IETF guidelines for inclusive language.

The use of a color name in context of indicating a request towards a
remote entity for discardation of IP traffic - indeed - does not align
with our shared goal of using inclusive language in the IETF.

The phrase "Remote Triggered Black Hole Filtering" carried on from RFC
5635 (which is not referenced in draft-ietf-sidrops-rpkimaxlen).

I regret not having recognized the opportunity to use more descriptive
and precise words when I took part in authoring RFC 7999. :-(

Suggestions from the community on how to proceed to improve the
maxlen internet-draft text (off-list or on-list) are most welcome.

Kind regards,

Job

ps. The authors will follow up on the other nits Acee brought to the table.

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