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Hi Gyan,

Thanks for your review!

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 10:53 PM Gyan Mishra via Datatracker <
noreply@ietf.org> wrote:

> Reviewer: Gyan Mishra
> Review result: Not Ready
>
> This draft provides the Yang model for PCEP.
>
> The Yang model should include all PCEP related extensions and which from
> reading the draft I see missing some major components that should be
> included
> detailed in this review.
>
>
IMHO (with no other hats but that of a WG participant/author), it is very
difficult to include everything in the base YANG model while the protocol
is constantly being extended. It is okay to get consensus on the base and
get it published first. The YANG allows easy augmentation for future
protocol extension.

Note that we already have a draft related to SRv6 (and SR Policy) -
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-01.html
adopted in the WG which augments the base YANG model.

That said I have gone through the below list and added comments
further....



> Minor issues:
>
> Normative and / or Informative References to the following drafts should be
> included as well as I see are missing in the PCEP Yang model itself:
>
> H-PCE
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8751
>
>
This was straightforward and thus added to the model now!



> SR related content missing from Yang model
>
>
Look for feature "sr" and you will find a lot of nodes related to SR and as
I mentioned SRv6 and SR-Policy is kept in a different draft. This also
allows us to progress the base PCEP YANG with a further dependency on
SPRING YANG documents which are not yet mature!



> PCEP Centralized Controller
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9050
>
>
It is better to have a seperate YANG I-D for PCECC, I was thinking about
creating one for all PCECC extensions together.



> SR PCE Extension
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8664
>
>
See above points!



> SR EPE
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9086
>
>
See above and moreover I don't see any PCEP YANG attributes for a BGP-LS
extension!



> SR EXT
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9085
>
>
Same!



> SRv6 PCE extension
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6/
>
>
Refer draft-ietf-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-01



> SRv6 PGM
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8986
>
>
Refer draft-ietf-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-01



> SRv6 SRH
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8754
>
>
Refer draft-ietf-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-01



> SRv6 Compression
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression-02


Refer draft-ietf-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-01



>
>
> Transport Network Modernization related GMPLS / MPLS-TP
>
> PCEP extension for GMPLS
>
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8282.html
>
>
This has been added now!



> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8779/
>
>
This is already there!



> RSVP TE extension for Co routed LSP ( Enhanced RSVP-TE) Allows operators
> to use
> converged network to support both unidirectional LSP and co-routed on same
> MPLS
> data plane without changing the MPLS data plane as is with MPLS-TP.
>
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7551.html
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9059
>
>
These are handled via association already! There is no need for any other
nodes.



> MPLS-TP Co routed path
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6373
>
>
What exact change do you want to see in the YANG model for this?



> PCEP stateful coloring extension
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-rajagopalan-pce-pcep-color
>
>
>
Left for the future! BTW not sure what change in the YANG model needs to be
done for this -- note we don't store the constraints (objects / TLVs) in
the YANG model.

Please see the new update for the I-D posted -
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang/
and diff at -
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-21

Please consider updating the review status if you agree with my comments.
Otherwise please help provide the exact change you would like to see!

Thanks!
Dhruv

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55=
,99)">Hi Gyan,=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet m=
s&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Thanks for your revi=
ew!=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 10:53 PM Gyan Mishra via Datatracke=
r &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:noreply@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">noreply@ietf.or=
g</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
>Reviewer: Gyan Mishra<br>
Review result: Not Ready<br>
<br>
This draft provides the Yang model for PCEP.<br>
<br>
The Yang model should include all PCEP related extensions and which from<br=
>
reading the draft I see missing some major components that should be includ=
ed<br>
detailed in this review.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">IMHO (with no other hats but that of a WG participant/author), it =
is very difficult to include everything in the base YANG model while the pr=
otocol is constantly being extended. It is okay to get consensus on the bas=
e and get it published first. The YANG allows easy augmentation for future =
protocol extension.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99=
)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuc=
het ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Note that we al=
ready have a draft related to SRv6 (and SR Policy) -=C2=A0<a href=3D"https:=
//www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-01.html" target=3D"=
_blank">https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-01.ht=
ml</a> adopted in the WG which augments the base YANG model.=C2=A0</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,san=
s-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:=
small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">That said I have gone through the below list and =
added comments further....=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Minor issues:<br>
<br>
Normative and / or Informative References to the following drafts should be=
<br>
included as well as I see are missing in the PCEP Yang model itself:<br>
<br>
H-PCE<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8751" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8751</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">This was straightforward and thus added to the model now! </div><b=
r></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
SR related content missing from Yang model<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">Look for feature &quot;sr&quot; and you will find a lot of nodes r=
elated to SR and as I mentioned SRv6 and SR-Policy is kept in a different d=
raft. This also allows us to progress the base PCEP YANG with a further dep=
endency on SPRING YANG documents which are not yet mature!=C2=A0=C2=A0</div=
><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x">
PCEP Centralized Controller<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9050" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9050</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">It is better to have a seperate YANG I-D for PCECC, I was thinking=
 about creating one for all PCECC extensions together. </div><br></div><div=
>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
SR PCE Extension<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8664" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8664</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">See above points! </div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
SR EPE<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9086" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9086</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">See above and moreover I don&#39;t see any PCEP YANG attributes fo=
r a BGP-LS extension! </div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
SR EXT<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9085" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9085</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">Same! </div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex">
SRv6 PCE extension<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-=
ipv6/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/do=
c/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6/</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">Refer draft-ietf-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-01</div><br></div><div>=C2=A0<=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
SRv6 PGM<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8986" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8986</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">Refer draft-ietf-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-01</div><br></div><div>=C2=A0<=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
SRv6 SRH<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8754" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8754</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">Refer draft-ietf-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-01</div><br></div><div>=C2=A0<=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
SRv6 Compression<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-filsfilscheng-spring=
-srv6-srh-compression-02" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://data=
tracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression-0=
2</a></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(=
7,55,99)">Refer draft-ietf-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-01</div><br></div><div>=C2=A0=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Transport Network Modernization related GMPLS / MPLS-TP<br>
<br>
PCEP extension for GMPLS<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8282.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8282.html</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">This has been added now! </div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8779/" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8779/</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">This is already there! </div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
RSVP TE extension for Co routed LSP ( Enhanced RSVP-TE) Allows operators to=
 use<br>
converged network to support both unidirectional LSP and co-routed on same =
MPLS<br>
data plane without changing the MPLS data plane as is with MPLS-TP.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7551.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7551.html</a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9059" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9059</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">These are handled via association already! There is no need for an=
y other nodes. </div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex">
MPLS-TP Co routed path<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6373" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6373</a><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">What exact change do you want to see in the YANG model for this? <=
/div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex">
PCEP stateful coloring extension<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-rajagopalan-pce-pcep=
-color" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/d=
oc/html/draft-rajagopalan-pce-pcep-color</a><br>
<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7=
,55,99)">Left for the future! BTW not sure what change in the YANG model ne=
eds to be done for this -- note we don&#39;t=C2=A0store the constraints=C2=
=A0(objects / TLVs) in the YANG model.=C2=A0</div><br></div><div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif=
;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Please see the new update for the I-D =
posted -=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-p=
cep-yang/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pc=
e-pcep-yang/</a></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">=
and diff at - <a href=3D"https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=3Ddraft-=
ietf-pce-pcep-yang-21">https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=3Ddraft-ie=
tf-pce-pcep-yang-21</a>=C2=A0<br></div><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-=
size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Please consider updating the review status i=
f you agree with my comments. Otherwise please help provide the exact chang=
e you would like to see! </div></div><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Thanks!=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;=
color:rgb(7,55,99)">Dhruv</div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div>

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