Re: [Rtg-dt-encap-considerations] Dallas - draft agenda, speakers, and slides!!

["Black, David" <[e-mail]>]

Erik,

The slides generally look good, and I'm actually going to suggest adding a couple of topics:

- 9 Extensibility: Congestion control is mentioned.
- 10 Layering of multiple encaps: Transport folks care about effects of X-in-Y-in-Z,
		particularly when there's a layer 4 protocol involved in each of them.
		MTU and ECN are two reasons why.

On balance, I think the next header topic can come out unless it's needed to set up the Layering topic.

Here are a few other things that I noticed:

- I wonder whether the word "transport" is always being used in a TSV sense.  I saw at least
	one place (slide 4) where it may have been used in an MPLS (MPLS-TP ?) sense. TSV does
	not consider MPLS to be a "transport" protocol in the TSV sense, if that helps.
- As this is not an RTG meeting, explain what NVO3, SFC and BIER are before putting up slide 7.
- The words "Congestion management" in the middle bullet on slide 8 *will* get you into trouble ;-).
	I don't think this is congestion management; it appears to be primarily traffic engineering
	and related operational traffic management for congestion avoidance.  The MPLS-in-UDP draft
	may contain some useful language to talk about this.
- The last bullet on slide 11 did not parse for me, sorry.

Thanks,
--David


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Nordmark [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 4:18 PM
> Cc: Black, David; [e-mail]; tsvwg-
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> Subject: Re: Dallas - draft agenda, speakers, and slides!!
> 
> 
> David,
> 
> do the attached slides cover the set up topics you see as relevant for
> TSVWG?
> Are there things we can omit such as the next protocol one?
> 
> Thanks,
>     Erik
> 
> On 3/16/15 10:52 AM, Black, David wrote:
> > The initial draft agenda for the tsvwg Dallas meetings has been uploaded:
> >
> > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/agenda/agenda-92-tsvwg
> >
> > Suggestions for changes are welcome.
> >
> > If your name appears on the agenda as a presenter or "(TBD)" appears
> > next to your draft, we need a confirmation of who will be presenting
> > - please send email to [e-mail] (it's ok to change
> > presenter name - these are our best guesses).
> >
> > We (chairs) have accommodated all the time requests that we know
> > about - if there are additional time requests, please send an email
> > to [e-mail] with the filename and title of the
> > draft, speaker's name and time requested.
> >
> > Please note that meeting time will be tight in Dallas - 110min of
> > each 120min session is currently scheduled, so offers to yield time
> > in advance will definitely be appreciated (e.g., if some of the
> > 20min time slots on Thursday only need 10min).
> >
> > Slides will be due by midnight Sunday in Dallas for both sessions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --David
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