Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] Fwd: [L3sm] Some background on the L3VPN Service YANG Model work

"Susan Hares" <shares@ndzh.com> Wed, 04 March 2015 14:44 UTC

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Benoit:

 

Do you consider the L3VPN service a protocol dependent yang module or a
protocol independent module? 

 

Sue 

 

From: Rtg-yang-coord [mailto:rtg-yang-coord-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Benoit Claise
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Subject: [Rtg-yang-coord] Fwd: [L3sm] Some background on the L3VPN Service
YANG Model work

 

FYI.

Regards, Benoit



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[L3sm] Some background on the L3VPN Service YANG Model work


Date: 

Wed, 4 Mar 2015 14:40:52 +0100


From: 

Benoit Claise  <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com> <bclaise@cisco.com>


To: 

l3sm@ietf.org



Dear all,

Let me give you some background on this new piece of work: The Layer Three
Virtual Private Network Service Model (L3SM)

Three months ago, Adrian Farrel and I set up a design team to create a L3VPN
service YANG model.
It needs to be clearly understood that this L3VPN service model is not an
L3VPN configuration model. That is, it does not provide details for
configuring network elements or protocols. Instead it contains the
characteristics of the service, as discussed between the operators and their
customers.  Therefore, that design team was composed of operators only.

That design team created a first draft:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-l3vpn-service-yang/ 
Now that the draft has been posted, the work and discussion should continue
in a public forum, i.e. this l3sm@ietf.org mailing list.

Next step? we're busy trying to create a new short-lived WG, focusing solely
on this L3VPN service YANG model.
See the proposal at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-l3sm/
If this WG is created (This proposal is on the IESG telechat this week for
external review approval), this would be a good test for the IETF community:
are we ready to standardize a first service YANG model? Personally, I
believe we are. 
IMO, the advantage/driver for this work is explained in the charter
proposal:

The deliverable from this working group will provide information to evaluate
the
set of YANG models that have already been developed or are under
development,
and will help identify any missing models or details.  The deliverable can
be
viewed as driving requirements for protocol configuration model so that the
service parameters can be mapped into inputs used by the protocol models.

Don't hesitate to forward this email. 
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Regards, Benoit