Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] I-D Action: draft-openconfig-mpls-consolidated-model-00.txt

Rob Shakir <rjs@rob.sh> Fri, 20 March 2015 15:47 UTC

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Oh, and the other point that I would like to make on this (but got trigger happy with pressing send) — I’m not sure that anyone (I certainly wouldn’t) would claim that this draft, or the other more structural modules that we (openconfig) have published recently reflect a wholly completed items to be rubber-stamped. That is clearly not the intention and there are surely issues and concerns that have not even been considered at the moment… however, community feedback and review is the best way to get that thinking done — so I certainly would welcome feedback on them.

Some of the issues might be cross-working-group, but that’s sort of the point of this list - and the way we work on network _management_ might not end up looking exactly like the way that we work on network _protocols_. Let’s not constrain our thinking.

(Thanks to the ADs and rtgwg chairs for accommodating discussion in Dallas.)

r.