Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] templates for protocol parameters

Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Fri, 30 January 2015 12:31 UTC

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> On 30 Jan 2015, at 13:24, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephane, Lada, 
> 
> Would it be possible to define a general rule where the a value specified
> for a data node in the template would only be used if that data node is
> not explicitly specified?

Yes, such an overriding would be useful. We also have to think about what to do with (leaf-)lists: if the same list appears in both the template and real instance, we could

1. use only the list from the real instance, or

2. merge both lists.

Lada

> 
> Thanks,
> Acee 
> 
> On 1/30/15, 6:03 AM, "stephane.litkowski@orange.com"
> <stephane.litkowski@orange.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lada,
>> 
>> The idea sounds good to me. In term of details, we must think about
>> creating "intelligent" templates.
>> What I mean is that applying some parameters to some items only.
>> 
>> For example, being able to apply a routing-protocol template to only bgp
>> instances which name matches a regexp ...
>> 
>> Here is what I see :
>> - being able to apply the template at multiple level (routing-instance
>> level, or routing-protocol level)
>> - if the template is applied at routing-instance level, the
>> routing-protocol part of the template routing-instance will apply to all
>> routing-protocols that will match the container of the template (if type
>> is OSPF within the template, it will apply only to OSPF routing protocols)
>> - the name leaves in the template could be used to store a regular
>> expression, or maybe we need to use another leaf. The regexp will permit
>> to identify which container are eligible for inheritance.
>> 
>> The main concern I have is if we develop such template for routing, would
>> it be interesting to extend it to all configurations ? (routing,
>> interfaces ...)
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rtg-yang-coord [mailto:rtg-yang-coord-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
>> Of Ladislav Lhotka
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:03
>> To: rtg-yang-coord@ietf.org
>> Subject: [Rtg-yang-coord] templates for protocol parameters
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> the templates that would allow for sharing/inheriting some protocol
>> parameters may be implemented in the current "ietf-routing" module as
>> follows:
>> 
>> 1. Define a new identity for the template routing instances:
>> 
>>   identity template-routing-instance {
>>       base routing-instance;
>>   }
>> 
>> 2. Define a new leaf under "routing-protocol" for referring to a
>>  template protocol instance:
>> 
>>   leaf template-ref {
>>       type leafref {
>>           path "/rt:routing/rt:routing-instance/rt:routing-protocols"
>>              + "/rt:routing-protocol/rt:name";
>>   }
>> 
>> With this, a routing instance of the type "template-routing-instance"
>> can be configured, and inside it any number of protocol instances (with
>> appropriate types) containing template parameters.
>> 
>> A "real" protocol instance would then use the "template-ref" leaf for
>> pointing to a template protocol instance and share/inherit its parameters.
>> 
>> I think it would then be easy to map inherited parameters in the
>> protocol-centric design to such a template, and vice versa.
>> 
>> Could this work?
>> 
>> Lada
>> 
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