Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of interfaces to routing instances
Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Sat, 14 February 2015 10:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of interfaces to
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"Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> writes: > On 2/13/15, 5:25 AM, "Ladislav Lhotka" <lhotka@nic.cz> wrote: > >>"Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> writes: >> >>> I believe the fact that we are having trouble resolving this is that the >>> model is wrong. I would propose the following: >> >>I don't agree the model is wrong. In fact, I belive in Junos CLI it is >>done exactly the same way, e.g. >> >> set interface fe-0/0/2 unit 0 family inet address 6.6.6.5/24 >> >> set routing-instances blue-vr interface fe-0/0/2.0 >> >>(IP address is configured in the interface subtree, and an interface is >>assigned to a VRF in the routing-instance subtree). >> >>I believe the troubles we are having are due to the different logic in >>the CLIs of the two major routing platforms. > > Does it show up as a separate list in the JUNOS gated-like > configuration hierarchy? If they do configure the IPv4/IPv6 addresses Yes, here is an example: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos14.2/topics/example/routing-instance-interface-settings-configuring-junos-nm.html Lada > disjoint from the routing -instance instances imply the corresponding > IPv4/IPv6 address space and the RIBs, I still don’t like the > inconsistency. > > The previous product I worked on, IPOS, had the interfaces in > routing-instance but the routing-instance interface included all the layer > 3 definition including the IP/IPv6 addresses (i.e., the RFC 7277 > definitions). > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > > > >> >>Lada >> >>> >>> 1. Remove the interface list completely from rtf-cfg configuration. >>> 2. Augment the RFC 7223 to include a reference to a routing-instance. >>> An interface should be part of one and only one routing-instance. >>> 3. Provide a list of interfaces in the operational state in the >>>rtg-cfg >>> model. >>> >>> One reason I'm proposing this change is that I believe a >>>routing-instance >>> implies an IPv4/IPv6 address space and the interfaces list MUST NOT be >>> disjoint from the assigned addresses (refer to RFC 7277). If you want to >>> have a list of interfaces in the routing-instance, you should deprecate >>> RFC 7277 or, at least, say that it only applies to the default instance. >>> >>> In all fairness, Lada disagrees with me on this point and wants the >>> flexibility of associating an interface with multiple routing-instances. >>> Additionally, he feels that the list inside the routing-instance will >>> facilitate better interface selection checking. I don¹t see the latter >>>as >>> an issue as the same checking could be applied when an attempt is made >>>to >>> augment the RFC 7223 interface. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Acee >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/14/15, 12:46 PM, "Juergen Schoenwaelder" >>> <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 04:43:29PM +0000, Xufeng Liu wrote: >>>>> Hi Andy, >>>>> >>>>> The concatenated string format is actually what we plan to do. >>>>>However, >>>>>to me, it is more like a hack than an engineered solution. The model >>>>>fails to capture such a relationship properly. >>>>> >>>> >>>>If your interface names are no unique, I would assume that you will >>>>face other issues as well. For example, one may use an interface name >>>>to disambiguate link-local addresses. I am not sure how that works if >>>>your interface name is not unique. >>>> >>>>/js >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH >>>>Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany >>>>Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/> >>> >> >>-- >>Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs >>PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C > -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C
- [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of interf… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Christian Hopps
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Russ White
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Russ White
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Rtg-yang-coord] issue :R03: assignment of in… Ladislav Lhotka