Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-multihoming
Olivier Bonaventure <Olivier.Bonaventure@uclouvain.be> Tue, 17 April 2018 07:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-multihoming
To: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>, RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
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From: Olivier Bonaventure <Olivier.Bonaventure@uclouvain.be>
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Jeff, RTGWG, > > The authors have requested the RTGWG to last call > draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-multihoming. > > There was consensus that document is ready for the last call and the > authors have resolved all the comments received from the v6ops reivew. The document discusses a range of solutions to enable legacy hosts to select the right source address to use to reach a given destination. However, I think that it complety ignores a very clean and efficient solution to the multihoming problem : using multipath transport. The IETF has already approved Multipath TCP in RFC6824. It is widely deployed on one popular brand of smartphones and the MPTCP working is progressing towards a standards-track version of MPTCP. In parallel, the charter of the QUIC working group includes multipath support and there is already an implementation which is available (see https://www.multipath-quic.org). Multipath RTP has already been discussed within the IETF as well. With Multipath transport, the entreprise pa multihoming problem can be solved in a much cleaner manner. A multipath transport has much more flexibility in a multihomed site than a single path transport protocol. With a multipath transport, it is possible to : - select a source address at the beginning of a connection and switch to another one during the lifetime of the connection without breaking it - use multiple source addresses for a given connection to achieve best performance (low delay, higher bandwidth by bonding, ...) - learn a new source address when a link comes up and use it during a connection - react to congestion on one uplink by switching traffic to the other uplinks I think that it would make sense to either : - discuss the impact of multipath transport in the current document (the draft lists [I-D.ietf-mptcp-experience] in its references but does not cite it in the text) - indicate that the current document is restricted to single path transport and write another document that describes how multipath transport protocols can be used to solve the problems listed in this document I'm happy to contribute if the WG decides to go in either of these directions. Best regards, Olivier Bonaventure
- RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-multiho… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-mul… Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-mul… Robert Raszuk
- Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-mul… Mark Smith
- Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-mul… Jen Linkova
- Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-mul… Jen Linkova
- Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-mul… Robert Raszuk
- Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-mul… Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-mul… Jen Linkova
- Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-mul… Robert Raszuk
- Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-mul… Jen Linkova