RE: RTGWG feedback on APN next steps
Dirk Trossen <dirk.trossen@huawei.com> Tue, 12 April 2022 07:53 UTC
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From: Dirk Trossen <dirk.trossen@huawei.com>
To: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>, RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>,
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Subject: RE: RTGWG feedback on APN next steps
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Dear all, I do support the creation of a place where APN and its requirements as well as framework could be worked on. In line with this support, I also want to point out the linkage to the discussion on ‘routing beyond reachability’ (RBR) and ‘semantic routing’, which were both presented at the recent IETF, in that APN fits the many examples given already for extending the functionality of the Internet’s capabilities beyond a mere reachability, possibly through APN-specific semantic enhancements that may be used for an app-specific traffic steering. But it also shows, in my view, the need for a wider understanding of how various reachability mechanisms will need to architecturally fit together in order to work together, a point that both aforementioned efforts on RBR and semantic routing tried to make, also working through concerns of complexity raised in this specific APN discussion. In conclusion, I support the creation of those APN effort but also hope we can make progress on the wider picture. Best, Dirk From: rtgwg [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura Sent: 05 April 2022 19:15 To: RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>rg>; rtgwg-chairs <rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org>rg>; rtg-ads@ietf.org Subject: RTGWG feedback on APN next steps Dear RTGWG, APN has been presented at RTGWG multiple times, and we see the evolution of the documents, including the scope of the problem and framework. This topic needs collaboration across WGs; we can foresee that not all issues to be addressed are within the charter of RTGWG and would span beyond the Routing area. RTGWG is chartered to provide a venue for new work, there are a couple of different options and one option for handling such new work would be to recommend the development of a new WG. The Chairs would then want to recommend that the ADs consider forming a focus WG, with a set of well defined deliverables and milestones (after delivery the group would be shut down) to work on a framework for APN. We would like to solicit the WG for opinions. Please note that comments about existing APN documents should be sent to apn@ietf.org<mailto:apn@ietf.org>. This thread focuses on support or objection to recommending that the ADs consider the formation of a new WG. Please send your comments, support, or objectiond. Thanks! Cheers, Yingzhen Jeff
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