Re: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model
Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Mon, 27 July 2015 19:10 UTC
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From: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>
To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model
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Acee, On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 05:46:48PM +0000, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 05:49:28PM +0000, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > > What do you think the model should say about redistribution of tags that are > > out of range of the protocol in question? > > This is one reason why I believe the redistribution or import policies > should be within the protocol themselves rather than external to the > protocol. There is less to constrain if you have per protocol > redistribution. Now, dependent on where we end up with factoring the > common policy, there may still be stuff that needs to be checked. That's really where we're heading with regard to this model. While BGP is obviously the first target, this is also the beginnings of a fundamental policy algebra that multiple protocols may share. I'm not saying that this isn't a "solved" issue in any number of implementations. I suspect results go from truncation all the way through blocking the redistribution depending on the protocol. Or perhaps even the protocol does the wrong thing and crashes the Internet. :-) But since we're effectively working on this as an IETF common component for yang, I do believe we need to figure out what it does. > > What do you think, if anything, the model should have in the way of > > constraints on this scenario? Note that this is a leading question since we > > don't get constraints on operational state until yang 1.1, if I recall > > correctly. > > I’m not sure why we need constraints for operational data in this case. By example: For a static route, if tag is set and tag is 0 and 0 is illegal for RIP, the operational state of the static route is tag=0. It is possible for a redistribution policy for static into RIP to detect an invalid operational constraint and "do something". Static is perhaps a weak example since one could model this against the configuration state, but once you move the example into a learned protocol such as OSPF, we're back to this problem. -- Jeff
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- Re: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model Jeffrey Haas
- Re: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model Jeffrey Haas
- RE: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model Antoni Przygienda
- Re: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model Jeffrey Haas
- RE: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model Antoni Przygienda
- Re: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: Comments on draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model Jeffrey Haas