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Re: I wonder what is being going on

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 13 March 2019 02:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: I wonder what is being going on
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:31:01 +0900
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On Mar 12, 2019, at 1:13 AM, shyam bandyopadhyay <shyamb66@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I have said many times earlier that the
>  basic principle based on which RFC 8028, RFC 8043
>  and draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-multihoming
>  are written, i. e. "default routing based on
>  source address of outgoing packets" was first
>  introduced on draft-shyam-site-multi.

Speaking for myself, having the position of a co-author on two of the documents you mention.

I have not inserted a reference into the documents for the simple reason that I was unaware of draft-shyam-site-multi and my thinking didn't depend on it. When I insert a reference into a paper, it's not in the academic sense in which one lists all possible mention of a topic and comments to associate with it or differentiate from it; I refer to a document to help explain some aspect of my thinking, or to lead a reader to some other technology that my thinking depends on. To give an example in the context of another paper, I mention that someone should validate a DNSSEC signature at some point, and I refer to RFC 4035 because it discusses what that means and how one goes about it.

The earliest mention of source-dependent routing that I know of is academic work done by Marcelo Bagnulo at (I believe) the University of Madrid, in Spain.

I'm sorry if that is offensive; for my part, it is pragmatic. I'm not writing a thesis, I'm writing a specification. I don't pretend to know everything. I do try to state clearly what I mean when I write something, and give my readers the references they need to understand and use it.

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