Re: VPN security vs SD-WAN security

Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Wed, 25 July 2018 09:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: VPN security vs SD-WAN security
To: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
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From: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 10:55:03 +0100
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On 25/07/2018 10:40, Robert Raszuk wrote:
> /* Adjusting the subject ... */
>
> ​Hello ​
> Stewart,
>
> ​You have made the below comment in the other thread we are having: ​
>
>     Indeed, I would have expected this to be on a secure network of
>     some sort either purely
>     private or some form of VPN. However, I am sure I read in your
>     text that you were
>     considering using the Public Internet much in the way of SD-WAN.
>
>
> ​Would you mind as extensively as you can expand on the above statement ?
>
> Specifically on what basis do you treat say L2VPN or L3VPN of naked 
> unencrypted packets often traveling on the very same links as this 
> "bad" Internet traffic to be even slightly more secure then IPSEC or 
> DTLS encrypted SD-WAN carried data with endpoints being terminated in 
> private systems ?
>
> Thx,
> Robert

Robert, I think that you have to take it as read that an air traffic 
control SoF system is encrypting its packets. If it is not, then it is 
clearly not fit for purpose.

What concerns me is that an air traffic system is one of the most, if 
not the most, high profile targets in civil society. You get reminded of 
this each time you travel to IETF.

The thing about safety of flight traffic is that a sustained and 
effective DDoS attack has global impact in a way that few other such 
attacks have.

A VPN system ought to sustain resistance to such an attack better than 
the proposed system which treats the SoF traffic the same as regular 
traffic.

- Stewart