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Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model

Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.qu@futurewei.com> Thu, 03 September 2020 22:32 UTC

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From: Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.qu@futurewei.com>
To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Chris Bowers <chrisbowers.ietf@gmail.com>, RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>, rtgwg-chairs <rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model
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Hi Chris,

Thank you for your suggestion, really appreciate. Version -21 has been uploaded with added text as you suggested.

Please let us know if you have any other comments.

Thanks,
Yingzhen

From: rtgwg <rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 1:52 PM
To: Chris Bowers <chrisbowers.ietf@gmail.com>, RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>, rtgwg-chairs <rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model
Resent-From: <yingzhen.qu@huawei.com>

Hi Chris,
I agree and will make the changes tomorrow.
Thanks,
Acee

From: rtgwg <rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Chris Bowers <chrisbowers.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 4:50 PM
To: Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>, rtgwg-chairs <rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model

RTGWG,

An objection has been raised with respect to requesting publication of draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model at this time.  The main concern expressed is that changes in draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model may require changes in draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model.

The main area of concern is the text in section 7 of draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model, which illustrates how the current version of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model augments rpol:defined-sets, rpol:conditions, and rpol:actions with bp:bgp-defined-sets, bp:bgp-conditions, and bp:bgp-actions.

I would like to suggest adding the following text to section 7 to make it clear that this text is not normative.

=================
The example below provides an illustration of how another data model can augment parts of this routing policy data model.
It uses specific examples from draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model-09 to show in a concrete manner how the different pieces fit together.  This example is not normative with respect to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model.
=================

Would this text, or something similar, help to address this concern?

Thanks,
Chris

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:45 PM Chris Bowers <chrisbowers.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:chrisbowers.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote:

RTGWG,



This email starts the two week WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model.



Please indicate support for, or opposition to, the publication of this

document as Proposed Standard, along with the reasoning behind that support or

opposition.

Jeff Tantsura is a co-author of the document, so he won't be involved
in judging consensus.



IPR:



If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond to

this email stating whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The

response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will

not advance until a response has been received from each author and
each individual that has contributed to the document.

This WG last call will end on September 2, 2020.

Thanks,

Chris

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