Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-multihoming

Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> Tue, 17 April 2018 20:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: RTGWG WGLC draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-multihoming
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On 17 April 2018 at 17:23, Olivier Bonaventure <
Olivier.Bonaventure@uclouvain.be> wrote:

> Jeff, RTGWG,
>
>>
>> The authors have requested the RTGWG to last call
>> draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-multihoming.
>>
>> There was consensus that document is ready for the last call and the
>> authors have resolved all the comments received from the v6ops reivew.
>>
>
> The document discusses a range of solutions to enable legacy hosts to
> select the right source address to use to reach a given destination.
> However, I think that it complety ignores a very clean and efficient
> solution to the multihoming problem : using multipath transport. The IETF
> has already approved Multipath TCP in RFC6824. It is widely deployed on one
> popular brand of smartphones and the MPTCP working is progressing towards a
> standards-track version of MPTCP. In parallel, the charter of the QUIC
> working group includes multipath support and there is already an
> implementation which is available (see https://www.multipath-quic.org).
> Multipath RTP has already been discussed within the IETF as well.
>
> With Multipath transport, the entreprise pa multihoming problem can be
> solved in a much cleaner manner. A multipath transport has much more
> flexibility in a multihomed site than a single path transport protocol.
> With a multipath transport, it is possible to :
> - select a source address at the beginning of a connection and switch to
> another one during the lifetime of the connection without breaking it
> - use multiple source addresses for a given connection to achieve best
> performance (low delay, higher bandwidth by bonding, ...)
> - learn a new source address when a link comes up and use it during a
> connection
> - react to congestion on one uplink by switching traffic to the other
> uplinks
>
>
> I think that it would make sense to either :
> - discuss the impact of multipath transport in the current document (the
> draft lists [I-D.ietf-mptcp-experience] in its references but does not cite
> it in the text)
> - indicate that the current document is restricted to single path
> transport and write another document that describes how multipath transport
> protocols can be used to solve the problems listed in this document
>


+1

I've been thinking the same thing about this related draft:

"Using Conditional Router Advertisements for Enterprise Multihoming"
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-conditional-ras-01

Regards,
Makr.



>
> I'm happy to contribute if the WG decides to go in either of these
> directions.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Olivier Bonaventure
>
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