Re: Request for WG adoption of draft-rtg-dt-encap-02

"Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com> Mon, 29 June 2015 16:51 UTC

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From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com>
To: Erik Nordmark <nordmark@sonic.net>
Subject: Re: Request for WG adoption of draft-rtg-dt-encap-02
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Hi, Erik,

> On Jun 29, 2015, at 3:25 AM, Erik Nordmark <nordmark@sonic.net> wrote:
> 
> On 6/29/15 3:42 AM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) wrote:
>> Jeff and Chris,
>> 
>> I did not see a response to the review comments at  <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg/current/msg04924.html>http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg/current/msg04924.html <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg/current/msg04924.html>.
>> 
>> Although not mentioned explicitly, the timing was such that these ought to be part of the WG adoption request.
>> 
>> Any consideration to that review and comments? Expectation of a response?
> 
> Carlos,
> 
> Your email arrived just as I was leaving on a trip, so I just read it to verify whether the comments were intended to place conditions on the adoption as a WG document. But I didn't see any such wording so I interpreted them as comments to improve the quality of the document, which I very much appreciate. Sorry for not having responded in detail yet.

No worries — I want to make sure those are considered.

Frankly, I would want to not qualify the review comments as either blocking or non-blocking for adoption, but I do believe some fundamental clarity on the scope of draft-rtg-dt-encap is needed before adoption. Otherwise, it is an unbounded moving target.

Specifically, without a definition for “encapsulation” and its scope (i.e., many considerations apply to an underlay), it is not clear what is the boundary that the WG should work on. If you look at the “General comments” portion of http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg/current/msg04924.html <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg/current/msg04924.html>, you will find foundational questions that directly relate to adoption.

Best,

— Carlos.

> 
> Regards,
>     Erik
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> — Carlos.
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Jeff Tantsura <jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com <mailto:jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> This poll has ended and there has been sufficient support to adopt the
>>> draft as the
>>> working group document.
>>> 
>>> Authors, please republish as draft-ietf-rtgwg-dt-encap-00
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Jeff and Chris
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> 
>>> From: Jeff Tantsura <jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com <mailto:jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com>>
>>> Date: Friday, May 22, 2015 at 2:58 PM
>>> To: "rtgwg@ietf.org <mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org>" <rtgwg@ietf.org <mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org>>
>>> Cc: "rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org <mailto:rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org>" <rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org <mailto:rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org>>
>>> Subject: Request for WG adoption of draft-rtg-dt-encap-02
>>> 
>>>> Hi RTGWG,
>>>> 
>>>> The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt draft-rtg-dt-encap-02 as
>>>> working group document.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please indicate support or no-support by June 8, 2015.
>>>> 
>>>> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
>>>> this email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.
>>>> The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will
>>>> not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each
>>>> author and each individual that has contributed to the document.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jeff & Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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