Re: [Apn] A new draft on APN for your review, thank you!
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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: "Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)" <pengshuping@huawei.com>, draft-per-app-networking-considerations <draft-per-app-networking-considerations@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Apn] A new draft on APN for your review, thank you!
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From: Int-area <int-area-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) <pengshuping@huawei.com> Sent: 22 January 2021 02:08 Dear authors, We have updated the APN BoF Proposal as attached. The suggestions in your draft and the <tp> Whatever APN may stand for! I looked at the I-D and the Abstract uses APN with no explanation of what it is:-( It needs expanding on first use and while I could read on and perhaps find an explanation yet the idea is that the Abstract tells readers whether or not this is of interest to them and this Abstract does not. The rest of the I-D may be clearer but I am not gong to spend time finding out:-) Tom Petch discussions with you offline inspired us a lot. The support of the user/app group is explicitly shown in the text although it was implicitly included. We have made a lot of efforts on clarifying the scope of the work, introducing the basic solution, and describing the concrete use case. Please advise whether we are clear now and how we can improve further, especially on the privacy concerns. Thank you! This posted draft, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis, would be able to give you more complete information. Please also refer to the recent discussions in the archives https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/apn/ if you have not subscribed the APN mailing list yet. Based on discussions and suggestions we received, we will update this draft accordingly. Your reviews and comments will be very much appreciated. Thank you! Best regards, Shuping From: Apn [mailto:apn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:12 AM To: apn@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: [Apn] A new draft on APN for your review, thank you! Dear all, A new draft on APN has been posted, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis. In this draft, we clarified the scope of the APN work in IETF, introduced an example use case and the basic solution. Moreover, we compared with the existing “similar” work/solutions and did corresponding gap analysis. Your review and comments are very much appreciated. Thank you! Best regards, Shuping A new version of I-D, draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Shuping Peng and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis Revision: 00 Title: APN Scope and Gap Analysis Document date: 2020-12-16 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 11 URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis/ Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-00 Abstract: The APN work in IETF is focused on developing a framework and set of mechanisms to derive, convey and use an identifier to allow for implementing fine-grain user-, application-, and service-level requirements at the network layer. This document describes the scope of the APN work and the solution gap analysis.
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