Re: [Rum] Call for WG adoption of: draft-rosen-rue-01

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Mon, 16 September 2019 15:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rum] Call for WG adoption of: draft-rosen-rue-01
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Isaac,

On 9/14/19 8:59 PM, Isaac Roach wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> Sorenson has concerns about using the current draft as the starting 
> point for the working group.

Right now this is the only candidate we have. Unless there is an 
indication that an alternative is forthcoming it will be a matter of an 
bird in the hand vs another in the bush.

If you wish to make an alternative proposal I am willing to help you 
with the mechanics of doing so.

Adopting this does not prevent addressing the points you raise below.

> For example, Sorenson agrees with your 
> earlier comments highlighting the security issues that the draft 
> presents and that it doesn't solve the client cert issue.

It would be helpful to have a discussion of the issue you want to solve. 
I sketch out my understanding of it in my comments. But if I properly 
understand your concerns then I don't know any way to satisfy them. And 
ISTM that web server developers should have similar concern about 
browsers and yet they manage without any similar verification.

> I also am 
> concerned about how the draft addresses 911, requiring endpoints to 
> comply with RFC6881 and to send geolocation information, rather than 
> using the method that the FCC’s rules require (Registered Location).  

I hope Brian Rosen will respond to this, since he is expert in 911 issues.

> Sorenson would be concerned if these issues become part of a WG document.

Again, adopting this draft does not preclude subsequently addressing 
these issues. Your issues will need to be resolved one way or another 
before the resulting document can survive a last-call.

	Thanks,
	Paul

> Thanks,
> 
> Isaac
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 7:51 AM Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu 
> <mailto:pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>> wrote:
> 
>     This is a call for the adoption of draft-rosen-rue-01 as a RUM wg
>     document. This is intended to evolve into the document our charter
>     calls
>     for.
> 
>     Comments, pro or con, on this proposal are due by Sunday September 15.
> 
>              Thanks,
>              Paul Kyzivat, as RUM co-chair
> 
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