Re: [Rum] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on charter-ietf-rum-00-02: (with COMMENT)

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Wed, 10 April 2019 15:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rum] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on charter-ietf-rum-00-02: (with COMMENT)
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> I still find it a bit excessive to create a 8-month working group for one document

Really?  Why?

I think it's a perfect way to handle things, creating a short-lived,
tightly focused working group for this sort of thing.  It's far better
than AD-sponsoring a document, which almost always gets inadequate
community review.  We've used such working groups very effectively in
the ART area (and its predecessors).

Barry