From paul.wouters@aiven.io Fri Mar 22 21:07:06 2024 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6517C15106F for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:07:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.105 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.105 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=aiven.io Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pLiTOcyn_6C5 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm1-x333.google.com (mail-wm1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33951C151066 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-4146e9e45c8so18857905e9.1 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:07:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aiven.io; s=google; t=1711166820; x=1711771620; darn=ietf.org; h=to:in-reply-to:cc:references:message-id:date:subject:mime-version :from:content-transfer-encoding:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=kqXEbn7hLShoyEukrhtObddOG1FWam4mFnCg4UPOLTw=; b=A1Mix2bER05tmaU8qRHCmW9uGlbPuWws3oF/xh64JK7/kNd5Hcq1wJd3b+QbZSqAQ/ CpC9gziJGHVs+BQonhTUQwmt7IeR2ljiKlISrIPBWL1JEbf/KdSOz+2CgychXDn0AEra RGXDChaNS2911ReUn5+ngMx3Xd8Kpwq2m5600= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1711166820; x=1711771620; h=to:in-reply-to:cc:references:message-id:date:subject:mime-version :from:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=kqXEbn7hLShoyEukrhtObddOG1FWam4mFnCg4UPOLTw=; b=oA5/sFvRBP/aKc2FGt1GkkcuRoPeBG510lDmDL1bgaE28A6p/r1qKVNJ+LVrutzEX7 HCsl3iW725kDowQ8pq75m0EyJMiK8wqqPkX3+2xejVFoUnqy5SWZq6GZklbE+A8utUzz GgD/Fa6yNJ/8SyT3hf05kzvH7dfibdaVqfDlvk2H4jKBUI6Cfqx8fNGCTyzosrIrStKm Xl92Ju67oQbzuzQbQl25zwFI4yCy5MEZuX2J7RXS6c5CPA5fEBb4K/yy9SnsUcwy+hbB 5Js2YmLsZRyu7ApblgeuV+rMzCw0YSO3ysa0rtM7KfTMMd18E9kmThKKe16yljuzHIUS JUzg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVQ8wDKE6sN5YKS0Ng4hRj0yCkm37KdjuQd3g891Ihg1YF2/JOdUM1bk+naDmLY1q8b8qV9HK+MGKS2MX/T X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx/JFmhUgb5qw3PKQ+TJXA5w2HEeycfeR2DOttY2RRh+jET3aSh Vj9D4TQwQq8TB2SMLyTuUKkB4JVFKBh0Q3Yd+i0gbL4uvXxlxu28ntWMPnJDOjBXXvd3MI4ujbC E34OEgCNcUf6Hd5TeKRNCzUDgYIMSxHS8Ym3AL5suhq22wEusJxshfOxCCvadhs4Gbxj1EQ/JMC 0I0S0wWp5CB5GmujwOIUFoa2OZyXeVww== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGl3IMo1DvnJux+sSB75YhwsFGADugD+7X0RJps/MSD69vnIKRwpLuBHU7QkhW5dUHS8/jRgg== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4681:0:b0:33e:c0f0:c159 with SMTP id u1-20020a5d4681000000b0033ec0f0c159mr454498wrq.10.1711166820369; Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([185.194.184.56]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p1-20020a05600c358100b00414105c4cd9sm1287531wmq.21.2024.03.22.21.06.59 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-13B78793-DC14-4E99-9D11-E3423494D91A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Wouters Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 14:06:43 +1000 Message-Id: <5C2EAC21-A4F2-4442-90BA-63F4CF8D3FF1@aiven.io> References: Cc: Eric Rescorla , saag In-Reply-To: To: Loganaden Velvindron X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (21D61) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [saag] SSH & Ntruprime X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 04:07:06 -0000 --Apple-Mail-13B78793-DC14-4E99-9D11-E3423494D91A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mar 23, 2024, at 13:45, Loganaden Velvindron wrote:= >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > So this will never be updated to include curve25519+sntrup761 ? >=20 > https://www.iana.org/assignments/ssh-parameters/ssh-parameters.xhtml#ssh-p= arameters-16 >=20 Would openssh switch to an IETF registration or keep using their own ? Or wo= uld applications just have to support both identical code points? Paul= --Apple-Mail-13B78793-DC14-4E99-9D11-E3423494D91A Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mar 23, 2024, at 13:45, Loganaden Velvin= dron <loganaden@gmail.com> wrote:

= =EF=BB=BF
So this will never be updated to include curve255= 19+sntrup761 ?



Would opens= sh switch to an IETF registration or keep using their own ? Or would applica= tions just have to support both identical code points?

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