[saag] httpauth BOF summary

Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com> Thu, 08 November 2012 14:59 UTC

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From: Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com>
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The HTTP(-)Auth BOF was held on Wednesday afternoon.

5 very different methods were presented. There was considerable resistance to the idea for several reasons:

 *   The problem statement is not well-defined
 *   We don't have the website builders who are the target audience for these protocols, so we don't have meaningful requirements
 *   The different solutions are obviously solving different problems.
 *   The IETF has been unsuccessful in designing user interaction

While there is considerable willingness to do work in this space, we need better-defined goals, and we also probably need to recruit some people who either manage the user experience in large websites, or write the frameworks used by the smaller websites.

Yoav