Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322

Phillip Hallam-Baker <ietf@hallambaker.com> Thu, 15 April 2021 19:32 UTC

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:31:23 -0400
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:53 AM Steve Allen <sla@ucolick.org> wrote:

> On Thu 2021-04-15T09:14:05-0400 Phillip Hallam-Baker hath writ:
> > Untrue, there is no reason that time needs to bear any relation to the
> > rotation of Earth, Saturn or any other planet. The time of noon changes
> by
> > 15 minutes over the course of a year in Northern Europe.
>
> Ramadan Mubarak!  Note that the reason that leap seconds were not
> abandoned at the 2015 ITU-R WRC is that


Is actually that nobody threatened to take away the toys from the
astronomers.

Big Tech is more than big enough to end UTC, all it takes is the willpower
to move to a different scale.



> 6 nations whose national
> holidays are based on direct observation of celestial events objected.
>

If their holidays are based on observing celestial bodies, they should be
observing said bodies and UTC is precisely irrelevant.



> International legal issues are why leap seconds were created in 1970.
>

Yet more of your vague, unspecified 'reasons'.

The real reason is a bunch of astronomers get a feeling of importance from
coming down from the mountain and telling everyone to snap their heels at
their direction.



> This thread needs to leave here now and move to someplace like the
> Leap Seconds Discussion List.
> https://pairlist6.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs


Not a list where the decision makers are.