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"Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu> Tue, 27 July 2021 15:21 UTC

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From: "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu>
To: Robert Moskowitz <rgm-sec@htt-consult.com>, "cfrg@irtf.org" <cfrg@irtf.org>, "saag@ietf.org" <saag@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [CFRG] NIST Leightweight Crypto report
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 15:21:38 +0000
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I have no comment, but one question: which of the NIST Lightweight Crypto candidates provide nonce misuse resistance, at least at the level comparable with SIV mode?

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Uri
 
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On 7/27/21, 11:06, "CFRG on behalf of Robert Moskowitz" <cfrg-bounces@irtf.org on behalf of rgm-sec@htt-consult.com> wrote:

    NIST just came out with:  NISTIR 8369


    "Status Report on the Second Round of the NIST Lightweight Cryptography 
    Standardization Process"

    https://csrc.nist.gov/publications/detail/nistir/8369/final

    I have been working with Xoodyak which is one of the 4 AEAD/hashing 
    finalists.  You can see how I am using it in:

    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-hip-new-crypto/

    I "like" Xoodyak, as I am able to use it much like Keccak/SHA3/SHAKE.  
    It does not come with the nice standardized calls as in SP800-185, but I 
    think I have duplicated SHAKE/cSHAKE/KMAC with Xoodyak in my draft.  
    Comments welcome!

    It has been implemented in openHIP.

    Bob

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