[saag] NTP update for SAAG @ IETF 108

Karen O'Donoghue <odonoghue@isoc.org> Thu, 30 July 2020 12:44 UTC

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From: Karen O'Donoghue <odonoghue@isoc.org>
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Subject: [saag] NTP update for SAAG @ IETF 108
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Here are a few security related updates from the NTP working group... 

The NTP working group meeting at IETF 108 is tomorrow (Friday, 31 July @ 1100 UTC). 

The most relevant security related update is that the 
Network Time Security for the Network Time Protocol (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp/) was approved by the IESG in March and is in the RFC Editor queue. 

Additionally, an experimental extension to NTP is on the agenda A Secure Selection and Filtering Mechanism for the Network Time Protocol Version 4 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ntp-chronos/)

Finally, some in the security community may also be interested in Roughtime ( https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ntp-roughtime/)