Re: [saag] [Cfrg] Further MD5 breaks: Creating a rogue CAcertificate

"Timothy J. Miller" <tmiller@mitre.org> Wed, 07 January 2009 06:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [saag] [Cfrg] Further MD5 breaks: Creating a rogue CAcertificate
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Yoav Nir wrote:

>> This sounds great at an IETF mike, but out in the field how do you  
>> get all those millions of browsers to pull down a new trust list  
>> that will no longer include CA foobar?

>> Can't happen now, and the way things are going, ain't going to  
>> happen before 2026 either.

> There's this one company such that if they use Windows update to  
> update their browsers, the others will follow. Technically, it's very  
> easy to get rid of the bad CAs. However, that company is not going to  
> modify their browsers, not now, probably not in the next few years.

I hate to burst your bubble, but there's no automated way to *remove* 
certs from the MS cert store.  You have to script it, and the script can 
fail any number of different ways.

The only reliable way to nuke a trusted cert from Windows is touch 
management of workstations.

-- Tim

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