Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardization?
Volker Birk <vb@pep-project.org> Fri, 30 July 2021 21:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardization?
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 10:40:13PM +0200, Harry Halpin wrote: > While I support your sentiments (in fact, I warned against the persistence > and abuse of COVID-19 related infrastructure as soon as the pandemic hit > [1]) and do note that the COVID-19 passports have already happened in most > countries, particularly in the EU. If they were built with open source and > open international standards, with actual privacy and security, then it > would be harm minimization. Dear Harry, thank you for taking this serious! But I fear you're mistaken. Let me explain: The major problem is not the passport itself. It is who checks it in which situation: commercial enterprises checking access to cultural events, but as we saw in Israel while the test also to food supply and education. So it will be a corporation deciding if you get education for your kids and if you're qualified to buy food. Let's illustrate this with a live example: Even if you're willing to take your vaccine and you're compliant with all government rules, what if you're rejected at the gate in spite of this? Then you can go to court and sue a commercial enterprise for doing this mistake – or for abusing their power, because you may be just a person the owners dislike. Then you can sue them over years. And while this time you cannot bring your kids to school and you cannot go to a supermarket and buy food. Sorry, this is way too much power to the wrong people. While the pandemic the super rich became so much richer. And the corporations' shares went through the roof. It must be enough feeding them now. We need to take care of all those people, who lost their business and who lost their loved ones in the pandemic. Creating a power tool to suppress all resistance to the government and handing over this tool to the corporate world will not help here. And unfortunately, it does not matter how much good will and intentions will be spend on this. Yours, VB. -- Volker Birk, p≡p project mailto:vb@pep-project.org https://pep.software
- [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardizati… Harry Halpin
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Volker Birk
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Harry Halpin
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Henry Story
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Dirk-Willem van Gulik
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Dirk-Willem van Gulik
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Dirk-Willem van Gulik
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Volker Birk
- Re: [saag] [Secdispatch] Interest COVID-19 'passp… Harry Halpin
- Re: [saag] [Secdispatch] Interest COVID-19 'passp… Dirk-Willem van Gulik
- Re: [saag] [Secdispatch] Interest COVID-19 'passp… Volker Birk
- Re: [saag] [Secdispatch] Interest COVID-19 'passp… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [saag] [Secdispatch] Interest COVID-19 'passp… Volker Birk
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Metapolymath Majordomo
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Eliot Lear
- Re: [saag] [Secdispatch] Interest COVID-19 'passp… Michael Richardson
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Michael Richardson
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… denis bider
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Henry Story
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Dirk-Willem van Gulik
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Henry Story
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Dirk-Willem van Gulik
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Henry Story
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Dirk-Willem van Gulik
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Thomas Hardjono
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Tim Bray
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Tim Bray
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Jon Callas
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] Interest COVID-19 'passport' standardi… Tim Bray