Re: [saag] CFRG Presentation on Algebraic Eraser
"Derek Atkins" <derek@ihtfp.com> Wed, 25 March 2015 14:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [saag] CFRG Presentation on Algebraic Eraser
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Hi Ben, On Wed, March 25, 2015 9:22 am, Ben Laurie wrote: > On 25 March 2015 at 03:53, Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Wednesday in CFRG my colleague and I are presenting the Algebraic >> Eraser, a public key crypto system targeted at embedded, low-resource, >> IoT >> systems that performs 70-200x better than ECC in time and power >> consumption. If you're at all interested in seeing viable, performant >> public key crypto on extremely constrained devices I encourage you to >> attend CFRG at 1pm on Wednesday. >> >> The abstract of the talk: >> >> The Algebraic Eraser (AE), introduced by Anshel, Anshel, Goldfeld, and >> Lemieux in 2006, is a key agreement protocol for public-key cryptography >> which was designed to be suitable for implementation on low-cost >> platforms >> with constrained computational resources, such as RFID, NFC, and other >> platforms associated with the "Internet of Things." One novel feature >> of >> the protocol is that its complexityscales linearly with the desired >> security, unlike other asymmetric methods such as RSA and ECC. In this >> talk we give an overview of the protocol and present recent hardware >> timing data comparing the performance of AE with ECC. >> > > Has there been any analysis of AE? Yes, there has. Over the last decade since AE was first proposed there have been only two classes of attacks ever found, both of which have been refuted (see my previous reply to Watson Ladd). In short, there was a class of weak keys if you randomly generate your private keys (but RSA has the same issue, you cannot chose a "random N", you need it to be the product of two large primes). The other attack basically boils down to having keys that are too short are easy to break. Details are in my other reply. Thanks for your interest, -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 derek@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant
- [saag] CFRG Presentation on Algebraic Eraser Derek Atkins
- Re: [saag] CFRG Presentation on Algebraic Eraser Ben Laurie
- Re: [saag] CFRG Presentation on Algebraic Eraser Yoav Nir
- Re: [saag] CFRG Presentation on Algebraic Eraser Watson Ladd
- Re: [saag] CFRG Presentation on Algebraic Eraser Derek Atkins
- Re: [saag] CFRG Presentation on Algebraic Eraser Derek Atkins
- Re: [saag] CFRG Presentation on Algebraic Eraser Derek Atkins
- Re: [saag] CFRG Presentation on Algebraic Eraser Viktor Dukhovni
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