[saag] Re: New Version Notification for draft-rsalz-crypto-registries-00.txt

Paul Wouters <paul.wouters@aiven.io> Thu, 28 November 2024 23:00 UTC

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Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 18:00:04 -0500
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On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 5:51 PM Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:

>
> On 28.11.2024 17:53, Paul Wouters wrote:
>
> An Internet-Dreft is as stable and findable as an RFC, and does not come with the implied endorsement of the IETF.
>
> A draft may be stable.  The spec in the draft is not.  Authors may choose
> to update that spec at any time.  Therefore, if implementers are looking
> for spec stability, drafts are the wrong vehicles.
>

As long as the code points are references by versioned drafts, this is not
an issue. We are looking at the few cases where this was done using an
unversioned draft and working with IANA to resolve those.

Paul