Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00
Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> Tue, 08 April 2014 18:31 UTC
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Ben, > On 7 April 2014 18:54, Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> wrote: >> Ben, >> >> Sorry to jump on late on this, but as a co-author of an RFC that deals >> with alg agility for the RPKI, I thought I might be able to contribute. >> >> It's generally useful to have a MUST implement alg (or set, if there are >> multiple >> algs needed) for any set of protocols (data formats, etc.) to help ensure >> interoperability. Selecting the MUST implement is sometimes hard, but it's >> worth >> the effort. >> >> Then one needs to have a way for all clients, CA, and log servers (in the CT >> context) >> to express which alg9s) are being used at any time, so that everyone else >> knows >> what choices have been made, when choices are allowed, and to guide folks >> through the >> transition process. > I am not really arguing with that, actually. But in the case of CT, > this information needs to be in the metadata about the logs. The RFC > does not currently specify how that metadata becomes available to > clients (and I'm not sure it should, either). Is that really the only option, i.e., externally-distributed alg info? I worry that this will be a problem. The RFC really needs to address this. Steve
- [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Russ Housley
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Ben Laurie
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Salz, Rich
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 S Moonesamy
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Salz, Rich
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 S Moonesamy
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 S Moonesamy
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Ben Laurie
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Salz, Rich
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Salz, Rich
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Ben Laurie
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 S Moonesamy
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Stephen Kent
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Salz, Rich
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Stephen Kent
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Ben Laurie
- Re: [saag] [Trans] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Ben Laurie
- Re: [saag] [Trans] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Salz, Rich
- Re: [saag] [Trans] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Ben Laurie
- Re: [saag] [Trans] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Salz, Rich
- Re: [saag] [Trans] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Ben Laurie
- Re: [saag] [Trans] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [saag] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Stephen Kent
- Re: [saag] [Trans] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Stephen Kent
- Re: [saag] [Trans] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [saag] [Trans] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Ben Laurie
- Re: [saag] [Trans] draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-00 Phillip Hallam-Baker