[saag] Re: New Version Notification for draft-rsalz-crypto-registries-00.txt

Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> Fri, 29 November 2024 08:38 UTC

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To: Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch>, Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Eliot Lear writes:

>Perhaps one of the best kept secrets we have is the independent submissions
>stream, which provides exactly this path.  See
>https://www.rfc-editor.org/about/independent/.

I think that definitely needs to be publicised more, or perhaps people
encouraged to use it more rather than creating de facto standards.  The last
part of my comment was a subtle dig at someone elsewhere in the thread who
said that we can't allow publication of stuff like the OpenSSH extensions
because it implies endorsement by the IETF.  The point I was trying to make
was that they're called Request for Comments for a reason, so when it's
clearly marked as "Informational" hopefully no-one will mistake that as an
IETF-endorsed standard of any kind.

One question about the independent-submissions track, pretty much everything
you can do in the IETF is already the domain of some standards group or other,
so if someone submitted an independent submission would it end up being
blocked with the justification being that it's an attempt to bypass the
standards group?  For example if GPG published their private extensions to
OpenPGP (to avoid picking on OpenSSH for a change :-) would it end up being
blocked because it's not being done via the OpenPGP WG?

Peter.