Re: [saag] On PKI vs. Pinning (SAAG 108 preview)

Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> Wed, 29 July 2020 00:58 UTC

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Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> writes:

>PKI = the set of root CAs is determined by one of a oligopoly of entities,
>based on CA/Browser Forum operations, where the entities aren’t really
>justifiable parties to the application?

While that's an accurate definition (if you substitute "WebPKI" for "PKI",
although for most of the world the two are the same anyway), good luck getting
anyone to admit that in a document :-).

Peter.