Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97CA1A8F4D for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:45:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.366 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.366 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hX-uUW4fw1Fm for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a35.g.dreamhost.com (sub4.mail.dreamhost.com [69.163.253.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC671A8F45 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a35.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a35.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB8254085; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:45:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cryptonector.com; h=date :from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=cryptonector.com; bh=69cmrWJBDjyY0E MKqcsx/1cNyDE=; b=JADtve4ZxfuG9pCkSxbAaT3e0/uMIQ9R8PVDbtj0UxVwud zuSpU5ByFIYDsUve6uciawpz0x2faLt51xf+Bl8Fs7DpcCCivXx3mCgNApUYt5j+ 1AwdjvgUIZC2O/WJE3orUn3j7UyGSBuMgAocxz9nmviE/jg5wN1SWZIu7M1Q8= Received: from localhost (108-207-244-174.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [108.207.244.174]) (Authenticated sender: nico@cryptonector.com) by homiemail-a35.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 174F35409F; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:45:40 -0500 From: Nico Williams To: Phil Lello Message-ID: <20150812164536.GD3654@localhost> References: <55CB2D0F.8000606@restena.lu> <12386.1439391436@sandelman.ca> <20150812155016.GA24354@localhost> <20150812164339.GC3654@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150812164339.GC3654@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Cc: Michael Richardson , saag@ietf.org Subject: Re: [saag] SSH Protocol Extensions X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:45:42 -0000 I should add that we have a great example of how the complexity of the GSS-API is really just about the API, and how it can be sidestepped: RFC5802. RFC5802 specifies a mechanism for GSS and SASL that can be implemented without reference to GSS. Nico --