Re: [saag] keys under doormats: is our doormat ok?
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 04 August 2015 13:19 UTC
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Subject: Re: [saag] keys under doormats: is our doormat ok?
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On 25/07/15 14:20, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Hiya, > > On 12/07/15 19:10, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> >> Just as we elevated RFC 20 to STD, we could still elevate it to BCP -- a >> status that, IIRC, was just becoming available at the time RFC 1984 was >> published. > > During the saag session in Prague we asked about this (more when I get > a chance to merge the good meeting notes we got). My conclusion from > that was that there seems to be a reasonable consensus among those who > were there and claimed to understand the issues to do as Carsten > suggests and there was almost no support for revising the text and > issuing a substantive update. > > That means we try to upgrade RFC 1984 to BCP status in-place without > changes to the text or the RFC number. > > I'm checking with the IESG and IAB to see if this plan causes them > angst and will report back in a week(ish) and take it from there. (So > get ready for, but please don't yet start, the potentially "fun" > process debate about the "C" in BCP - we'll undoubtedly do that in > an IETF last call;-) IAB and IESG seem sanguine about this, so I've written up the status change thing in the tracker. [1] I'll start IETF last call on that in a day or two. Comments are welcome in the meantime of course. Cheers, S. [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-rfc1984-to-best-current-practice/ > > Cheers, > S. > > _______________________________________________ > saag mailing list > saag@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/saag > >
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- Re: [saag] keys under doormats: is our doormat ok? Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] keys under doormats: is our doormat ok? Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] keys under doormats: is our doormat ok? Stephen Farrell