Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322
Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Wed, 14 April 2021 11:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322
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On Apr 14, 2021, at 5:00 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@manchester.ac.uk> wrote: > > I would say for this particular example of security logs you should use ISO8601 (aka RFC3339), as it is more important when it happened/expires internationally rather than what timezone it happened in. > > In that case it should also be UTC-based or have an explicit timezone, e.g. considering "Zero day" - which day? Add to that the problem that time zones change over time. That information can be lost, or unknown to later consumers of the data. What we've learned in the AAA environment (ISP / Telco) is that there are two reasonable choices for dates: 1) whatever you use locally, because it will never go off-system, and no one else will ever see it 2) RFC 3339 Alan DeKok.
- [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Eliot Lear (elear)
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Tim Bray
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Nico Williams
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Nico Williams
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Paul Hoffman
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Nico Williams
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… John C Klensin
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Claudio Allocchio
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Randy Bush
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Ned Freed
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Michael Douglass
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Dave Crocker
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Stian Soiland-Reyes
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Alan DeKok
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Tony Finch
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… heather flanagan
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… tom petch
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Steve Allen
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… heather flanagan
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Stian Soiland-Reyes
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Henry Story
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Peter Gutmann
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Salz, Rich
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Tony Finch
- Re: [saag] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 5322 Carsten Bormann
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Steve Allen
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Mark Baushke (ietf)
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Metapolymath Majordomo
- Re: [saag] [art] Date formats: RFC3339 vs. RFC 53… Yakov Shafranovich