Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic?
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 04 November 2020 19:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic?
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This thread started at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/FR9WP9Y-73QZVX6Org-ciNDwM0w/ In https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/wTtDYlRAADMmgqd6Vhm8rFybr_g/ EKR proposed: QUIC ended up with a different taxonomy: On-path [Dolev-Yao] Off-path Limited on-path (cannot delete) In https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/b26jvEz4NRHSm-Xva6Lv5-L8QIA/ Christian Huitema proposed: man-in-the-middle [Dolev-Yao] man-on-the-side man-in-the-rough Many liked this, minus "man". In previous discussions of the "MAN" in MITM, some suggested "Malory-in-the-middle". In https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/R0uevzT0Vz9uqqaxiu98GtK1rks/ Alan DeKok proposed the "the council of attackers" malicious messenger [Dolev-Yao: who rewrites messages sent] oppressive observer [who uses your information against you] chaos creator [who just breaks things so you can't use them] Adding: "Alliteration is cute, and helps with memory. :)"
- [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Michael Richardson
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Christian Huitema
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Nico Williams
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Carsten Bormann
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Dan Harkins
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Carsten Bormann
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Fernando Gont
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Dan Harkins
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Michael Richardson
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Peter Gutmann
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Christian Huitema
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Paul Hoffman
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Carsten Bormann
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Alan DeKok
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Dan Harkins
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Dan Harkins
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Michael Richardson
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Nico Williams
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Eric Rescorla
- Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? Michael Richardson