Re: [sacm] next steps for draft-ietf-sacm-arch

Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> Tue, 16 November 2021 18:01 UTC

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From: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:00:51 -0500
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Subject: Re: [sacm] next steps for draft-ietf-sacm-arch
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Hi Karen,

Given that the IETF SACM WG is wrapping up, I suggest that letting SACM
Architecture expire
makes sense, because it can no longer constrain any SACM component
protocols (all of which
would be create, if at all, *after* SACM WG is closed).

Cheers,
- Ira

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On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 7:21 AM Karen O'Donoghue <odonoghue@isoc.org> wrote:

> Hi!
>
>
>
> At the IETF 112 WG meeting, the level of energy around
> draft-ietf-sacm-arch was concerning to us.  A call for reviewers elicited
> no volunteers.  A historical look at the mailing list also shows little to
> no WG discussion for over a year despite there being a number of open items
> to address.  We have consulted with the draft authors, and they feel the
> right next step should be to let the document expire.
>
>
>
> We’d like to check with the WG to confirm continued interest in finishing
> draft-ietf-sacm-arch.  Are there any volunteers to join the editorial team
> or contribute text to finish the document within the next several months?
> Are there volunteers to review the document? Please speak up immediately if
> this work is important to you.
>
>
> In the absence of volunteers, there doesn’t appear to be sufficient energy
> in the WG to finish the work. In that case, there is no choice left but to
> let the I-D expire.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Karen and Chris
>
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