Re: [sacm] Call for adoption of draft-coffin-sacm-nea-swid-patnc as a SACM WG document

Adam Montville <adam.w.montville@gmail.com> Thu, 09 June 2016 23:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sacm] Call for adoption of draft-coffin-sacm-nea-swid-patnc as a SACM WG document
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Tony,

This working group has, on several occasions, reached out formally to other standards development organizations very early on in our work, and I believe you are well aware of such facts.

I don’t believe we’re ignoring anything or being insular or making preposterous statements, but I am pleased to see that you like the adopted solution.

Kind regards,

Adam

> On Jun 9, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Tony Rutkowski <tony@yaanatech.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Adam,
> 
> A good solution.  Charles and Gunnar should also engage
> in some proactive outreach.  Simply stating that "no other
> solutions to the problem of software identification have
> been submitted" is preposterous when there are so many
> out there.  IMHO, one of the long-standing problems with
> SACM is its institutional and participatory insularity in an
> arena where so many almost identical activities are occurring
> in other venues where there is far greater industry participation.
> Ignoring them diminishes the value of whatever SACM
> accomplishes.
> 
> --tony
> 
> On 2016-06-09 3:47 PM, Adam Montville wrote:
>> All:
>> 
>> After several on-list discussions, the last virtual interim, and the discussions surrounding this call for adoption, the chairs acknowledge that there are some key concerns with this draft, but also see that there is rough consensus for adoption.  We additionally note that no other solutions to the problem of software identification have been submitted to the working group [1].
>> 
>> Because the topic of software identification, and SWID in particular, appears to be a contentious one, we are designating Charles Schmidt and Gunnar Engelbach as editors of the working group draft [2].  We believe that Charles and Gunnar will bring the necessary balance to this draft, so that the key concerns are sufficiently addressed.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Adam & Karen
>> 
>> [1] This draft adoption does not preclude future alternative submissions
>> [2] Note that original authors will remain authors, but Charles and Gunnar will hold the pen.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2016, at 11:21 AM, Karen O'Donoghue <odonoghue@isoc.org <mailto:odonoghue@isoc.org> <mailto:odonoghue@isoc.org <mailto:odonoghue@isoc.org>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> As discussed during our last couple of meetings, this is the official call for adoption of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-coffin-sacm-nea-swid-patnc/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-coffin-sacm-nea-swid-patnc/> as a SACM working group document.
>>> 
>>> Please reply with any comments or concerns along your support of this action to the mailing list.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Karen and Adam
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